How Will Mother-Targeted-by-Playground-Police Play Out?

I took my children to the playground in April 2020 and got charged with disorderly conduct & criminal trespassing. My trial is August 11, 9am @ Concord District Court (32 Clinton St. Concord, NH). Show up (early if possible) to show your support, with or without signs. The more people the better! – Rochelle Kelley

What: Legaland trial for Rochelle Kelley
When: 9am, Wednesday, August 11th, 2021
Where: Concord District Court, 32 Clinton St., Concord, NH 03302 [map]

UPDATE August 11, 2021: Rochelle Kelley Found Not Guilty for COVID Playground Arrest – Full Trial Video

A bit of backstory and relevant links are below. What this boils down to is that Kelley and others involved questioned the aggressors and refused to cower. This of course is blasphemous to those who demand obedience.

Will justice emerge?

Text on the Concord Police outfit’s website claims that “Our department strives to develop strong relationships with our citizens…” If that were true the initial harassment of Kelley and others would not have occurred, the ongoing legaland threats against them would cease, and in the least an apology would be given. But instead, Stevens and his accomplice have yet to make right. Further, their colleague John Thomas has only dug in his heels.

In an interview with WMUR Thomas made clear the real cause for the ongoing harassment of Kelley, saying they had “No respect to the officers. It was very saddening to see how these folks carried themselves in front of their children in how they spoke to the officers that day.” Personally, I think it’s saddening to see how Thomas and his accomplice acted. What sort of world are they constructing? What sort of world are they apparently satisfied to leave the next generation?

The person who will oversee Kelley’s legaland proceedings is Edwin W. Kelly. His track record seems to indicate a person who’s not too fond of transparency. But, people can change. Let’s hope Kelly does the right thing and chooses to side with the law. (And by “law” I don’t mean legalese, but with the actual law, where a victim must exist before another is held to task.)

The court of public opinion is powerful. Your presence at this legaland hearing may help sway Kelly to do the right thing. If however, Kelly chooses to side with injustice he’ll only succeed in lessening the clout people grant to him and others responsible for these rights-violations. Either way, Kelley will have stood up for what she knows to be right.

Background:

April ??, 2020 Two Concord police employees — Steven Carter Badge #72 and an unidentified female — approached parents and children using the playground equipment at Rollins Park in Concord, NH and demanded they leave. Carter and his accomplice pointed-to dictates made by another person not on the scene — Christopher T. Sununu — as justification for their actions.

April 26, 2020 Ian Freeman posted VIDEO: Concord Police VS Parents at Playground in which he pointed-out that Concord police employees “have ignored groups of protestors at the state house but are more than happy to target a small group of parents at a local playground, when called to scene by a local cowardly snitch.”

Freeman concluded, “Kudos to these parents for calling out the police and recording video of their thuggish behavior. Thank goodness some people are standing up for freedom here in New Hampshire.”

September ??, 2020 Many have recognized the audacity and draconian nature of these police actions and have stepped-up. Friend Andrew Manuse started a fundraising campaign to help Kelley, which has raised over 4,000 Federal Reserve Notes.

September 24, 2020 Ian Freeman posted UPDATE: Parents Arrested Several Months After Bringing Kids to Concord Playground in which he shared that after video of the interaction surfaced, arrest warrants for three adults present — Rochelle Kelley, Pamela Jewell, and Tyler Workman — were issued for “Criminal Trespassing” and “Disorderly Conduct”. Freeman continues, “Just to be clear, multiple parents in the so-called ‘Live Free or Die’ state are now facing two years behind bars for bringing their kids to a playground. It’s a perfect example of how insane this Fear World is and how far the state is willing to go to ensure people’s obedience.”

November 06, 2020 Kelley posted, “So I went to court on November 2. They offered me to plead guilty to one of the charges (of my choosing) and pay a $100 fine. I declined, obviously. But that tells me they don’t really have much solid evidence that I committed either crime.”

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51 Comments

  1. Don’t want to be arrested? Don’t trespass. The city owns the playground, and the city has the right to shut it down due to public health concerns. Pretty clear evidence of property rights being violated here. Go play on your own private playground.

  2. Wow. You libtard weirdos always come up with the best con jobs, don’tcha Karl? I mean stealing money from hard-working people – with the tacit understanding that the city will use it to build and maintain a playground meant for everybody – and then later on just saying fuck it and telling everyone it’s the city’s and get the hell off of it or else. God you guys are so awesome. I mean you guys just go around everywhere imposing your will on everyone and it’s like you don’t even give a shit what crummy assholes you all are!

  3. So I’m too special!!! Pls help me show being disrespectful is ok we all hated the COVID-19 rules or whatever you want to call them I hope no one shows up

  4. It’s communal property governed by the city, Silvia. Don’t like it when the city shuts it down due to a public health crisis? Then elect leaders that agree with you. Since the majority of voters chose representatives that wanted this property shut down, you don’t really have a leg to stand on here.

    Oh, in your libertard utopia there would be no public playgrounds anyway, so I’m not sure what your hissy fit is all about. Just pretend that’s how we’re living now. lol.

  5. Got it. “Owning stuff is for boojies. Communal property is the only path to salvation.” Karl 3:16

  6. “Pretty clear evidence of property rights being violated here” – The problem is the cities playground was acquired, built, and maintained through theft, and if it was a private entity then you’d be 100% right. The problem is it isn’t unreasonable that a parent whom supposedly is being provided a service in exchange for the monies taken (almost certainly without her consent or at least via threat or force) receives said service. If they don’t then that agreement isn’t valid and she should be refunded the monies stolen by government. Ultimately you don’t get to dictate to me what I can do with our common property unless you are willing to refund my portion of the cost. Otherwise she is within her MORAL right to use the playground regardless of what the city bureaucrats or courts decide. This also means crack addicts have a right to use the playground. I’m not for crack addicts using the playground, but that is the problem with government and the tragedy of the commons. Don’t like it? Support the movement to end the theft.

  7. “So I’m too special!!! Pls help me show being disrespectful is ok we all hated the COVID-19 rules or whatever you want to call them I hope no one shows up”

    This isn’t about COVID or rules. This is about officers demands respect they don’t deserve and utilizing violence to achieve “respect”. I’m not a fan of the COVID rules, nor am I a fan of mandatory masks, but I don’t have a problem with other people wearing masks. You have the right to wear a mask, and I have the right not to. I have the right to use the playground so long as government is stealing from me to cover the costs of it. Want that to stop? Stop stealing from society to achieve your dysfunctional social and political objectives. There is nothing wrong with restricting crack heads or COVID deniers (not sure that was the case here, she may just have not been convinced of the threat, rather than COVIDs existence) from the playground, but it better be YOUR playground, not a playground that is funded through theft.

  8. “The problem is the cities playground was acquired, built, and maintained through theft..”

    Great. Assuming that you in the United States, when are you leaving the country? After all, the land we sit on was stolen from the indigenous peoples. I’m sure the tribes would like their land back. Or is theft okay when it happened a long time ago?

    Anyway. private ownership only exists in the context of the state. Assuming you own property, the deed you bought was originally sold by the government, and it was never sold as an allodial title. That means the government kept the right to tax, govern, and even take the property from you through eminent domain.

    “Ultimately you don’t get to dictate to me what I can do with our common property unless you are willing to refund my portion of the cost.”

    Clearly, the city does.

    “Otherwise she is within her MORAL right to use the playground regardless of what the city bureaucrats or courts decide.”

    lol okay bud.

  9. “Assuming that you in the United States, when are you leaving the country? After all, the land we sit on was stolen from the indigenous peoples.”

    Are you saying you’re okay with the theft from indigenous peoples and that’s why you choose to stay? Or you don’t consider it theft? Not following you here.

    “private ownership only exists in the context of the state. Assuming you own property, the deed you bought was originally sold by the government, and it was never sold as an allodial title. That means the government kept the right to tax, govern, and even take the property from you through eminent domain.”

    Most things I own don’t have any deed… but I still own them. The same can be true with property and it doesn’t take a long stretch of the imagination to see how it could work. One idea that’s floating around right now is Blockchain-based property registries. Interesting!

    What you’re talking about here in the US is more like trading rights to properties than owning the property itself. It doesn’t have to be that way. Many see it as the government issuing rights and privileges of something it doesn’t have the right to itself. Illegal contracts and contracts made under duress is a thing. Those contracts are invalid.

  10. Intrigare, the person I was responding to started with the premise that because the city’s playground was “acquired, built, and maintained through theft”, that their property rights are illegitimate. To be logically consistent, then the only people that have property rights here are indigenous peoples. I’m taking a stab in the dark that he/she doesn’t actually think that and wants to stay here anyway, hence their position is inconsistent. Like most libertarians, they want to do whatever they want, and justify it later under muh rights.

    “Most things I own don’t have any deed… but I still own them. The same can be true with property and it doesn’t take a long stretch of the imagination to see how it could work. One idea that’s floating around right now is Blockchain-based property registries. Interesting!”

    That sounds like quite the stretch of the imagination to me. Real property has never worked like that in all of history. At least, not with any meaningful stability.

    Who’s to say whether a contract is illegal? Who defines duress? The Free Market? lol… good luck with your company towns and scrip. The only true freedom is being a slave to those with capital. (This was sarcasm, just in case Silvia is listening.)

  11. “Intrigare, the person I was responding to started with the premise that because the city’s playground was “acquired, built, and maintained through theft”, that their property rights are illegitimate. To be logically consistent, then the only people that have property rights here are indigenous peoples.”

    Sorry, I still don’t get it. Don’t you make the same logical inconsistency by saying that people who help scammers should have their ill-gotten gains taken from them? So when are you leaving the United States, Marx?

    “That sounds like quite the stretch of the imagination to me. Real property has never worked like that in all of history. At least, not with any meaningful stability.”

    Interesting, it appears its already being used in some countries. Hmm, google is awesome sometimes. Learning something new almost every day.

    “Who’s to say whether a contract is illegal?”. Hmmm, how about court? Except one that both sides recognize and isn’t paid for with stolen money (taxes.)

    “good luck with your company towns and scrip”

    Considering what we’ve got now, I’ll take my chances?

  12. More BS. They knew there was a ordinance yet they proceeded to break the law and were busted by the PD.

    They decided to act like little children when the PD showed up. These people should have been locked up for being disorderly. They were insulting the officers and calling them names. These people were acting so childish, it was causing their children to cry.

    I would suspect they were at the park with their kids for their kids. When they decided to act like immature children it was no longer about the children. It was about them and their ridiculous self entitlement. I couldn’t imagine acting like that in front of my children.

    Now with the Delta-B variant, it is possible that another lock down could be on the horizon. You just never know.

  13. “After all, the land we sit on was stolen from the indigenous peoples.”

    That’s nice, Karl. Thing is, none of the indigenous peoples encountered by the European colonials had any understanding of the concept of property rights. They were all dyed-in-the-wool collectivist assholes just like you are. Anyway, there’s a moral to this story. Wanna hear what it is, Karl? Oh, and it has nothing to do about slavery. I promise.

  14. Gee Jacks,

    If the police cared about about the heath and safety of those kids so much more than their own parents, I wonder why they didn’t lock those parents up straight away instead of waiting until months later to issue arrest warrants? It wouldn’t be because cameras were rolling at the time and they might be held accountable for their actions would it? No, not that….

  15. You see that, Silvia? Jacks would never insult others, call names and like a child in front of his daughter, the deputy. All of those activities he performs here as a forum troll are done out of sight. He sets such a good example of the caring father doesn’t he?

  16. act like a child*

  17. Hi Jacks. Great post, by the way. I especially liked the part where you said “children” six times. Real bleeding heart stuff for the rest of the libtard weirdos on this blog, huh?

    Oh, and thanks for the warning about the Delta-B and all, but I already bought some extra underwear. I think I have enough until at least the Delta-J comes along. After that, I’ll just have to play things by ear.

    Anyway, before I go, I have another George Orwell quote for you to chew on. I think you’ll like this one. It’s about how you libtard weirdos love to sensationalize the mundane in hopes of convincing everyone to welcome the boots that’re about to step on their necks. Boy, that Orwell was way ahead of his time, wasn’t he?

    “The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.” – 1984

  18. He wouldn’t? Oh, I get it. You’re using that sarcasm shit that Karl’s been telling me all about. Nice touch, Intrigare! 😉

  19. “Sorry, I still don’t get it. Don’t you make the same logical inconsistency by saying that people who help scammers should have their ill-gotten gains taken from them? So when are you leaving the United States, Marx?”

    Pay attention, Intrigare, those were his claims, not mine.

    “Interesting, it appears its already being used in some countries. Hmm, google is awesome sometimes. Learning something new almost every day.”

    By NAP abiding voluntaryists, or governments?

    “Hmmm, how about court? Except one that both sides recognize and isn’t paid for with stolen money (taxes.)”

    Oh, this will be fun. What happens in your side when neither party agrees to a court? Does the dispute magically go away?

  20. “That’s nice, Karl. Thing is, none of the indigenous peoples encountered by the European colonials had any understanding of the concept of property rights.”
    You mean property rights aren’t natural and inherent to mankind? Cool. You’ve just conceded a huge libertarian talking point. I could kiss you, but you’re a libertarian woman, which probably means you aren’t very attractive. Also, I guess I’m gay now?

  21. By the way, what is the deal with making continual references to George Orwell like he supports your worldview? Why don’t you quote somebody from your side, like the welfare queen Ayn Rand?

  22. “You mean property rights aren’t natural and inherent to mankind?”

    Property rights is a concept, Karl. Civilized people adopted it because it was the fairest way to arrange society. That’s why savages and mediocrities like yourself hate it so much.

    “Why don’t you quote somebody from your side, like the welfare queen Ayn Rand?”

    I don’t know, Karl. Why won’t you quote mass murdering commie thugs like Joseph Stalin or Mao Zedong? They’re on your side, aren’t they?

  23. “Pay attention, Intrigare, those were his claims, not mine.”

    I was paying attention. Too much, it seems.

    “By NAP abiding voluntaryists, or governments?”

    Does it matter? The point is that since blockchain is decentralized, which means it can handle things like property registries so governments don’t have to. So what you may think is “a long stretch of the imagination” or “never worked like that in all of history” is actually already happening in some parts of the world! Cool, huh? Well, cool to anyone who likes to see government made obsolete.

    “Oh, this will be fun. What happens in your side when neither party agrees to a court? Does the dispute magically go away?”

    Yes, this will be fun. How bout rock paper scissors? Coin toss? Dice? No? How about… cock measuring? We like that, right? Any of these methods probably give truth and justice a greater chance than what we see in our current system.

  24. “Property rights is a concept, Karl. Civilized people adopted it because it was the fairest way to arrange society. That’s why savages and mediocrities like yourself hate it so much.”

    Oh good. Your racism aside, I’m at least glad you are more honest than other Libertarians that seem to think property rights are inherent and God-given, when in reality it is a construct of society. We agree here!

    Now, how are property rights enforced? We have to have a sole authority that we can turn to in order to manage disputes about property rights. Otherwise, if there were multiple authorities, they could each provide a different judgment, which could cause people to fight each other. We wouldn’t want that in a civilized society, would we?

    What would we call this authority? It would need educated people to make fair rulings… and people that could enforce those rulings…. and it would need to be funded by those with a vested interest in property in a geographic region… hmmm. Let me know if you think of something.

    Oh, and Stalin and Mao aren’t on my side. They came to power after I died, remember?

  25. “Does it matter? The point is that since blockchain is decentralized, which means it can handle things like property registries so governments don’t have to. So what you may think is “a long stretch of the imagination” or “never worked like that in all of history” is actually already happening in some parts of the world! Cool, huh? Well, cool to anyone who likes to see government made obsolete.”

    Well, since your premise is that property rights can be enforced in the absence of the state, I would say that it should matter to you. Maybe not though. The blockchain registry seems to act as a deed, by the way, and it is still enforced by the government. I struggle to see a substantial difference honestly.

    “Yes, this will be fun. How bout rock paper scissors? Coin toss? Dice? No? How about… cock measuring? We like that, right? Any of these methods probably give truth and justice a greater chance than what we see in our current system.”

    Are you going to seriously answer the question, or are you content with this flaw in Voluntaryist/libertarian philosophy?

  26. The thing is Marx, I didn’t make the claim that voluntaryist/libertarian philosophy is a flawless political system. I’ll leave that to political theorists, philosophers, etc. who are much brighter on the subject than me. My only claim that is that its better than the system currently in place, which is a much easier position to argue. Hell, I’ll even go so far as to say Marxism may even be better than the system we have now. Happy now? 😉

    So, to continue our discussion, am I wrong? Do you think the system we have now is better than using dice? Do you think Marxism is better than the system we have now? Why/why not?

  27. “Your racism aside…”

    Ha ha ha. You libtard weirdos and your -isms.

    “Now, how are property rights enforced?”

    With guns, Karl. Obviously.

    “We have to have a sole authority that we can turn to in order to manage disputes about property rights.”

    It doesn’t have to be a government authority, Karl. Conflicts can be settled through arbitration agreed to by the disputing parties. This is done in divorces all the time. The legal hucksters call this a collaborative mediation. Cool, huh?

    “Otherwise, if there were multiple authorities, they could each provide a different judgment, which could cause people to fight each other. We wouldn’t want that in a civilized society, would we?”

    You ever heard of an appeal, Karl? Multiple authorities. Different judgments. Chaos. Scary, huh?

    “What would we call this authority?”

    The judge, obviously.

    “It would need educated people to make fair rulings…”

    Uh huh.

    “…and people that could enforce those rulings….”

    Yup.

    “…and it would need to be funded by those with a vested interest in property in a geographic region…”

    Nope.

    “…hmmm. Let me know if you think of something.”

    The conflicting parties burden the costs of arbitration, and the loser burdens the cost of recompense. Get it? Just kidding, Karl. I know you don’t.

    “Oh, and Stalin and Mao aren’t on my side. They came to power after I died, remember?”

    Just following your own rules, Karl. I mean if Marx facilitated murder cults because of the stupid ideas encouraged by his dumb philosophy, then he’s morally culpable, now isn’t he?

  28. Sheesh Silvia, this Marx dude wants every little thing broken down for him doesn’t he?

    You’d think if really cared so much, he’d hold himself and his own beliefs up to those same standards he expects from others. Am I right?

  29. “My only claim that is that its better than the system currently in place, which is a much easier position to argue. Hell, I’ll even go so far as to say Marxism may even be better than the system we have now. Happy now? ?”

    Despite it’s alleged easiness to prove, I don’t think you’ve shown that your system would be a better system. Not being able to settle disputes when both sides can’t agree on a mediator is a pretty big hole.

    Marxism isn’t really a system of governance. It’s a socioeconomic analysis. Have you read much about it?

  30. “So, to continue our discussion, am I wrong? Do you think the system we have now is better than using dice? Do you think Marxism is better than the system we have now? Why/why not?”

    Yes. I have a lot of problems with our system, but it is better than using dice. I’ve watched a lot of Zoom court proceedings over the past year, and I found that most of the rulings were to my satisfaction.

  31. I think it depends on what you mean by Marxism. I think people (like Silvia) conflate what Marx advocated for with the evils of Bolshevism, which I would say deserves every critique it gets. Marx himself (in my opinion, and I am his ghost after all) was more interested in the critical analysis of Capitalism and less focused on how to transition out. I lean toward a gradual approach myself, which I think was Marx’s approach as well.

  32. Funny about property rights, Silvia. They can be defended by guns, but they can also be taken with guns. What’s to stop a gang or corporation from just taking your property? In your system, who is going to hold them accountable? After all, they probably won’t agree to meet with whatever arbitrator you’ve chosen (or your family, should you get gunned down). Why would they have to?

    This is the same problem Intrigare is having. What happens if a person doesn’t consent to any court or mediator? Does the dispute just go away?

    An appeal is asking the same authority to take another look. It’s not the same as having equal authorities give conflicting opinions. The higher court is always above the others. Appeals would be a good idea in your system too, but I guess there would be nothing to guarantee them, would there?

    “Just following your own rules, Karl. I mean if Marx facilitated murder cults because of the stupid ideas encouraged by his dumb philosophy, then he’s morally culpable, now isn’t he?”

    Not sure how I agreed to this. Nice try though.

  33. Oh, and Silvia, for what it is worth, I am in favor of moving to the European model where court costs and fees are paid by the losing party. It seems we both agree that we should be more like Europe, eh?

  34. “Despite it’s alleged easiness to prove, I don’t think you’ve shown that your system would be a better system.”

    You haven’t proved yours either. So we’re even?

    “Not being able to settle disputes when both sides can’t agree on a mediator is a pretty big hole.”

    So is a system where a representative of one of the disputing parties also gets to play the role of judge. Dice anyone?

    “Marxism isn’t really a system of governance. It’s a socioeconomic analysis. Have you read much about it?”

    I haven’t. Rand’s books are over a thousand pages and must be read many times in order to fully comprehend and memorize. Life is short you know 😉

    “I’ve watched a lot of Zoom court proceedings over the past year, and I found that most of the rulings were to my satisfaction.”

    I’m happy for you. Many many (perhaps most) people see the current judicial system as being corrupt and unfair. Those must only be the ones on the losing end of judgements, eh?

  35. You’re right on the money, Intrigare. Hey, ya know what’s even weirder? Karl here actually thinks he’s the only guy in the forum who’s ever read Engels or Marx. What a maroon, huh? And what’s his deal with Ayn Rand? Everyone knows that Bastiat, Von Mises, and Rothbard are where it’s at.

  36. “An appeal is asking the same authority to take another look.”

    It’s a different judge, Karl. That makes it a different authority.

    “Not sure how I agreed to this. Nice try though.”

    That’s funny, Karl. You of all people should know you don’t get the choice to agree or disagree. You obey. Or else.

    “What’s to stop a gang or corporation from just taking your property?”

    Simple, Karl. Whoever has the most guns wins. Say, why are you presuming my gang will be the weakest one in your hypothetical scenario, anyway? It’s because I’m a women, isn’t it? Sexist. 😉

    “It seems we both agree that we should be more like Europe, eh?”

    Nope. Not in the slightest, Karl. For one, countries in Europe have no freedom of speech. For another, you can pretty much forget about owning any guns. Oh, and don’t get me started on the French and their smelly armpits.

  37. Nope. Both judge’s are acting on behalf of the state, so it is the same authority.

    “Simple, Karl. Whoever has the most guns wins. Say, why are you presuming my gang will be the weakest one in your hypothetical scenario, anyway? It’s because I’m a women, isn’t it? Sexist.”

    Hey, if you think about it… society is already like that! The government already has the most guns, so I guess they win! I didn’t realize how happy you are with society as is, Silvia! I assumed you were a libertarian, but as it turns out you are a statist. Welcome to the team, sweetheart! You’re already more attractive. You’re probably like a 3 out of ten now! Still won’t kiss you though. Not because I’m gay, but… well 3 is a little low, even for me.

  38. “Nope. Both judge’s are acting on behalf of the state, so it is the same authority.”

    The judge is the authority. The state just signs his paychecks.

    “The government already has the most guns, so I guess they win!”

    Actually, private citizens account for 393 million of the nation’s guns. Guess who’d lose if push came to shove? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with shmovernment.

  39. “Nope. Both judge’s are acting on behalf of the state, so it is the same authority.”

    The judge is the authority. The state just signs his paychecks.

    “The government already has the most guns, so I guess they win!”

    Actually, private citizens account for 393 million of the nation’s guns. Guess who’d lose if push came to shove? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with shmovernment.

  40. By the way, Karl.

  41. Didja know that, according to Marx, once s o c i a l i s m is truly realized the state will become totally obsolete?

  42. From that point onward, society will govern itself without the state’s coercive enforcement of law. See? Even libtard weirdos like you believe in self-government.

  43. God this spam filter is sucking a bag of dicks today.

  44. Hey, what happened to your mod powers, Silvia? Someone with more guns take them away? ?

    And holy crap, libertarians and Marxists rejoice, we’re all in agreement now ;). Congratulations everyone, excellent debate.

  45. “Actually, private citizens account for 393 million of the nation’s guns. Guess who’d lose if push came to shove? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with shmovernment.”

    Except for the fact that most people want a government. I guess we at another standstill though, because you are living in a fantasy where everybody wants a stateless society, everybody has the power to change it with all of those guns, and yet the government remains. lol

    Yeah, I noticed awhile ago the spam filter doesn’t like the s word. I guess Ian was triggered by it. Poor baby. =)

  46. “Oh, and don’t get me started on the French and their smelly armpits.”

    Aw the French aren’t that bad. I personally find some of the French pretty hot. (Women, Karl, don’t get excited.). That language and accent! Voila! … ;). Bonjour.. :)~

    Hell where do we think Frédéric Bastiat, Voltaire, and the Statue of Liberty came from came from anyway? And have you seen the news about all the anti-government and anti-forced inoculation rioting right now? Hell I’ll bet France has just as much potential to be a libertopia as anyplace else.

  47. “Yeah, I noticed awhile ago the spam filter doesn’t like the s word. I guess Ian was triggered by it. Poor baby. =)”

    Lol. Hmm yeah I’m thinking it may have filtered out one of your responses to me. I guess that means I’m under Ian’s protection. For now anyway 😉

  48. Probably. There’s been a couple of instances where I wrote a reply, it filtered my message, and then I couldn’t give a damn to retype it. I guess the Free Market is watching over you and Silvia against my statist oppression (sometimes) Glory Be to the Invisible Hand! Oh look, It’s like I’m practically a member of that sham church Rich “Nobody” Paul claims to be the leader of.

  49. Ramen.

  50. Look at the bright side, the more the Free Keeners advocate for stuff like this and no masks, the sooner they’ll get the Delta or next variant that comes along and die. The problem of them will self correct and not one corrupt, racist pig cop will have to do anything.

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